cornering and shooting

[BillNyeTheScienceGuy]

I have the hardest time peaking around a corner really fast and shooting. I see really good players do it and it looks like they know exactly where to set up their crosshair before they even shoot. They usually result in a HS. Plz dont respond to this post saying they prob wall hack becuase your just wasting my time.

From my own experience I try to keep as little of my body revealed as possible for a smaller target and try to be as fast as possible. I do a quick little straff and shoot as fast as I can after I turn the corner. The only prob is I cant ever line up my crosshair on their head fast enough without either missing or getting killed. Plz someone give me some help with this!

[DeadFerret]

umm wal hax :P

haha no man if u watch closely then ull see that they mostly dont even aim before they fire like that. After enough time u can sort of geuss what ur opponent will do. Mind games you know. If u expect him to be somewhere you can position urself to be aiming there when u peek without aiming afterwords. Then Just like quickscoping u should already have ur crosshair on them or very near them so u can start firing and burst control it onto them or just adjust ur aim. Certain maps though u need to know what to do because say the guy is awping u then u cant just peek cause hell be waiting to just click and u die, u gotta play with him. Just like poker man think what he wants u to do and do the opposite.

[Mackaybre]

Dead Ferret's post is a good synopsis of the nuances involved in the psychology of CS. The practical drill or exercise I would suggest to help develop some of those Estimating skills would be to record a demo while playing and view it later, Noting down the mistakes you made (ie, reloading too early, not checking a certain area, etc.) and also in your case spending extra time reviewing the cornering you do. If you can see a trend of where people are when you corner, you can statistically estimate that yes, something like 70% of the time they'll be here, 25% they'll be here, and the last 5% they'll be any number these other places. Then the next time you reach that corner, you can plan to aim where it's most likely they'll be.

It may seem like I'm setting you up to automate your CS play, but it IS the kind of thing that people do when considering tactics. A buddy of mine tossed over a pdf a while back of Room entry and clearing proceedures for a squad from his "Ranger handbook." It's a little surprising how common-sense some of it is, and how much of it may already be in your routine. It's scripted, it's drilled, and it saves soldiers' lives.

Also, I would note that situation changes dramatically when the opponent knows you are there. As in Ferret's example, if your opponent has an awp, you better know exactly where he is to pop him in the face a-la prefire or you will be shot. To be honest, most of the time, if a guy Knows where you are, you don't want to be there anymore. If they're on the ball, they'll keep the upper hand and let you make the mistake. You're stuck behind a corner and the guy's ready to awp you; Flash if you can or Smoke and plan to retreat. Dart out briefly and back in Immediately; the awper may take his shot and miss. That's when you pop back out and take your shots. Do not pop out with rhythm, human beings love rhythm and are very sensitive to it; Don't get caught coming out from cover On Cue.

[BillNyeTheScienceGuy]

Thx a lot for you feedback guys, you answered my question perfectly. I am definetely going to take your advice and record demos of myself. I never thought about it too much, but now I realize psychology is a huge part of CS. A lot of the times other players will follow patterns as well and I can also pick up on that. Thank you for your thoughtful replies you were very helpful.

[Havic7654]

well this is what i do

next time you play go in ur own server or a pub and find someone standing still and aim at there head and then just keep the crosshair at that height so all you will need to do is fire and you should already be aimed at the face

after you do it awhile and have a good idea where the head will be keep ur crosshair at that level then all you will have to do is shoot

also if you have a really good pair of headsets and you knw the sounds of source like the file cabnet moving or runing on snow or floor or stairs and listen for glass and reloads and anything it helps alot if you listen real close you can hear the slightest bit of sound from far away

[BillNyeTheScienceGuy]

Oh and I would also be interested in taking a look at that ranger handbook. If you could, email it to me at besselieu15@comcast.net

[Mackaybre]

Right, this may not be the most up-to-date version, but I believe this is at least a good approximation of the Ranger Handbook. (http://www.121sfs.org/Library/SH%2021-76.pdf) I didn't take much time to reveiw it to see if it's the same as the pages I have, but on brief inspection the room entry proceedures look the same, and that's what you asked for.

212 pages for 1.88Mb isn't too much to ask. Enjoy.

[BillNyeTheScienceGuy]

A very interesting read to say the least. I kinda just scanned over all the sections and found some of it to be quite helpful. I will definetely put these tactics to use for my clan. A lot of it is basic, but sometimes I tend to forget these basics. I will finish reading the rest of it later for sure. Thx alot Mackaybre

[dobbythepwner]

woot ive bumped into another old post.......
if u play the proper way which leads to cs micro (look in counter strike general discussion)
after i started playing like this i noticed a MASSIVE increase in gameplay , after this i started getting good at shooting round corners
be happy =)

[Havic7654]

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[Tk]

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