how good is this guide? serioulsy (no biased opinions)

[KissofDeath]

i really wanna know how good this guide really is? please post ur honest opinions. and btw, wow u guyz are good :) :0

[rew ? sky]

Here is my honest opinion, which you may or may not trust considering I am a member of World of Pwnage...but I'll give it anyway.

I'll come out and honestly say that if you are on a cal team that consistently makes cal-o play offs every year but never makes it to main, the guide can certainly help you but in a very minimal way. This can be applied to any guide though - why would you purchase a guide to a game that you already understand very well? A guide is designed to help those who are having trouble grasping the fundamentals/more advanced techniques in a game.

I think if you have trouble maintaining a 3:1 in a pub CONSISTENTLY with any gun, then I think the guide has a lot to offer you. I've been playing the game for about 6 years and if you find yourself having trouble owning people easily in a pub, then I think the guide could eliminate 4 years of learning off of that 6 year road.

I wouldn't have supported wop or worked with them so much if I didn't think this guide worked. Part of the fun for me is working with and developing tools to help the customers own more efficiently in the game. I give advice that took years for me to learn in hopes that you can progress faster than I did.

If you are new to counter-strike, have been playing for a few years, and have never made it to cal-IM then I think the guide has a lot of interesting tips, suggestions and support that goes beyond the guide. We are constantly adding new material and offering support in our ventrilo for those who have helped support us and we also offer a pub that you can play in (if you have any suggestions for that, we will take them as well).

So to sum things up...if you don't own at counter strike, I think the guide is a great investment...if you really want to get better at the game it's simply a matter of practicing the material and we'd be more than happy to help you. And besides, if you ever came out of it totally unsatisfied, we do have a refund policy, but we would really like to try and work with you if that's the case to make your purchase worthwhile.

[rew ? sky]

Also - i'm more apt to go out of my way to help people that are active members in the community. So if you're already really good and feel like you don't need the guide, but still think I could teach you some things and post frequently on our forums/pub often...I wouldn't necessarily mind working with you.

[Chippe]

The guide rocks don't hesitate to buy it you WILL get better

[sky]

Ive heard really good things.

[KissofDeath]

well, ur opinion, rew sky, has made me reallly want to buy this guide. By looking at it and seeing someo of the demo videos, it looks amazing, especially the no scope awping :P. And btw, u guyz are amazing :) :0. For you to go out of our way to help other who dont have as much as skill as you is so nice. Ya, and can't get a 3:1 kpd ratio. Thats just too hard for me. But if this guide will make me do that and improve accuracy, etc im definatly gonna buy this guide. The only problem that i have is that my parents probably won't let me just buy it for no reason. Maybe chirstmas or i make up an accuse saying ya im goin to a different grade so ya a welcomin pressent, or a get a good mark. w/e ill think of something, but i will buy it sooner or later. and btw wats ur x-fire rew sky? thanx for the reply

[Chippe]

Don't tell them :twisted:

[TeeJay]

Also - i'm more apt to go out of my way to help people that are active members in the community. So if you're already really good and feel like you don't need the guide, but still think I could teach you some things and post frequently on our forums/pub often...I wouldn't necessarily mind working with you.

Teach me a few things rewsky. =)

[HaVoK]

Also - i'm more apt to go out of my way to help people that are active members in the community. So if you're already really good and feel like you don't need the guide, but still think I could teach you some things and post frequently on our forums/pub often...I wouldn't necessarily mind working with you.

Teach me a few things rewsky. =)

lol......are you serious teejay?

[rew ? sky]

Also - i'm more apt to go out of my way to help people that are active members in the community. So if you're already really good and feel like you don't need the guide, but still think I could teach you some things and post frequently on our forums/pub often...I wouldn't necessarily mind working with you.

Teach me a few things rewsky. =)

If you really think I have info that can be of use...we can talk and trade ideas about maps and strategies some time.

[ThePig]

"How good is the guide?"

Many have ask this already and now I can just say 'look at the feedbacks'.

But I want to point out a few things:
The guide is aimed at beginners to advanced players. The guide is updated often and will continue to grow as we grow better in CS. I think players are really searching for a way to become better. I think this is/will be a complete guide to pwn in CS but if one is not open to learn and accept new ideas himself, it does no good for him.

There are many gamers (heck people in general) that tend to shut themselves out of the things that will get them what they really want because they consiously or unconciously shut themselves out of experiencing new things. They would hear "That's too risky" or "That can't possibly work" from others or from their inner voice and then they blank the whole thing out of their head and never get to experience or dig deeper into uncharted paths.

They are the opposite of "Jar Heads". It is true that you cant just be a jarhead and accept whatever someone tells, but you have to man up to yourself and acknowledge what you want improved and then just 'make it so'.

[KissofDeath]

good point. wat r ur guyz xfire? and how come i dont see many [WoP] clan members on ur server?

[rew ? sky]

good point. wat r ur guyz xfire? and how come i dont see many [WoP] clan members on ur server?

I wish I had xfire...but it came before my generation. I'm the aol instant generation D: Maybe I should finally just dl it.

You don't see us on too often lately because we're practicing like hell for the play offs this cal season! wish us luck...we're in the top 32 teams in atlantic :D

[KissofDeath]

o ya, good luck in ur playoffs in ur CAL season! hope u guyz win :D One day ill be there :lol: :D jk maybe if i buy ur guide :). and wen u do get xfire, tell me ur name. or wats ur steam name?

[Ridd3r]

Definately worth geting gives you good consistent scores in css and potentially excellent scores using their techniques. Just seen the new video (number4 (a) ) telling u about setups and disabling mouse acceleration has increased my kdr and given me a big advantage in close a long ranges :P Together with the other 3 videos it really helps u 2 become an excellent all round player. Just gives u a big edge over other players even if uv got low hp u can beat gd players quick with their texhniques. Roll on video 5 really looking forward to deagle techniques :D

Also given the effort these guys put into maintaning the clan and replying to thousands of posts quickly its not a high price 2 pay.

[teg suo]

I'm an Advanced CS:S player i get average scores all the time, and i always end up being on top of the scoreboard on the team im on, but i just dont feel like my skill is growing anymore, and i think the guide is the answer to my prayers, but im 14 and i have no chance of buying the guide. (parents dont have credit card and i dont really have any money)

Is there any other way i can get the guide? or will i have to buy it in 4 years? :roll: lol.

[KissofDeath]

where can we check out the demos for video's 1 and 2???? ive seen the demo for video 3 with the awp and no scope!!! thats really cool, but anyways where are the other demos?

[ll4m4]

I just bought this guide And I don't have access... I'm gonna email one of you 2 (pig and payne) and my clickbank receipt. plz help.

[joe579003]

This guide is awesome, nuff said.

[SoNiC]

The guide is worth it, i've improved a great deal my score and aim is alot more consistent also its made me think abit differently in terms of playing the game or tactics in other words.

The guide is good and continually improving with each update :)

[|CC|EasyKill]

i am doing worse now than i have in months.
Did the guid make me worse_ NO! In no shape or form could that of done it. I think i am just thinking and trying too hard and got onto a slippery slope.

I really wish i would have had this in the begining, but... we'll see. I'm not giving up
kdr today is .77:confused:

[DuSTY]

I buy the it today and i LOVE IT :D Thanks Guys

[rew ? sky]

i am doing worse now than i have in months.
Did the guid make me worse_ NO! In no shape or form could that of done it. I think i am just thinking and trying too hard and got onto a slippery slope.

I really wish i would have had this in the begining, but... we'll see. I'm not giving up
kdr today is .77:confused:

If you want, post up a demo of yourself in the private section and we will try to work with you on how you could improve your game.

[|CC|EasyKill]

thanks- i've backed off css and am playing about 75% less. As soon as i get back into it and get my kdr back up to crappy (:o ) i would love to take you up on the offer.

The guide was great, i just wish i had it before i developed all my bad habits

i know i rush and spray tooo much and my 14" monitor doesn't allow for the best of imagery. When i get time back to play i will buy a 19" or 20" monitor... just don't know what yet.


thanks for the reply! and the offer!!

[Mackaybre]

I would say that it's best not to play CS:S a whole lot. Some of the best players I know play maybe 1.5 hours a day. I see how it goes with my own playing; the trick really is to just play a SHORT time 1/2 hour - 45 mins... 1 hr MAX, then go away and do something else. If you want to come back and play more, do it, but make sure there's a decent amount of time in between.

More time in game is not better; you really do start to get unconciously or even conciously bored with it, and stop really paying attention. You fall into ruts and will find you keep dying in the same way. This is because you are predictable and just throwing yourself into melee.

I have tried a couple of things other than just stopping playing; If I keep getting killed, I usually switch to pistols and nades for a few rounds. I force myself to stay back and play a support role. Pick up a gun if the opportunity presents itself, but keep using pistol and nades or even just an mp5. Just mess around for a bit and stop trying so hard, you'll do better.

[dobbythepwner]

Its called consistency.
you cant play on top form everyday.
i have problems now and then.
i play a bit of 1.6 because i never seem to suck at it :D
then go back to source maybe 7 hours later or the next day.
time will tell :)

[|CC|EasyKill]

good advise! it's like you got my demo already:o

i could change my name to "RUT" i think. I've played till i'm done but becuase i'm so upside down in points i would try to play more telling myself it was just to get my points back up, knowing the 12 times i did it before they never got better.

i think i will try this when i start back in.

thanks again- and when i get that demo i will post it... no laughing though:-D

[Stag]

I thaught it was a great guide although i learned all the stuff from the first section from the internet already.
accept on the second secion when i try to play the videos i click the play botton than the stop botton lites up then after a few seconds the play button lites up again.???

[Mackaybre]

I thaught it was a great guide although i learned all the stuff from the first section from the internet already.
accept on the second secion when i try to play the videos i click the play botton than the stop botton lites up then after a few seconds the play button lites up again.???

Is there a real question in there somewhere, Stag?

If you're having technical difficulties with the guide itself, check that part of the forums for direct help.

[payne]

check the vip forums troubleshooting faq thread.

[Stag]

check the vip forums troubleshooting faq thread.

it wont let me. and theres no other help forums


benstagwebb@yahoo.com is the e-mail i baught it with

[ThePig]

An email I got from a recent buyer:

"
I was a little sketchy about buying a Counter-Strike guide that could
supposedly help me "pwn" people just by learning some good techniques.
I've only read 1/3 of the guide and watched 2 of the videos and it was
really helpful information.

In the first 10 minutes of playing today on aim_map_usp I wasn't even
trying to use any /strategy/ other that what I've read from the guide so
far... which was just aiming methods. So I stood out in the open like a
nub and took some shots from my opponents while I was calmly aiming at
them and learning which parts of the body to aim for and where the
bullets land...
after about 5 rounds my teammate went on the other team to aid the pwned
terrorist have a fair match.
They both got raped : )

This guide is worth every penny!
I'm a very pleased customer.

I attached a screen shot of the scoreboard to this email.
-Animosity chaz"

[type51]

Yeah the pwnage guide really does help, its defently incredble for the starting player, being able to shoot faster like pros comes with time and reflex and a perfected strafe stop. After you have learned the guide and stuided it it just takes some practice and maybe some private lessons and you will be great, it is a great buy and really helped me, I do not really refer to it to often as I have watched the videos and read it alot haha and after time your own style will develope out of the teachings,etc. Defently a recommended buy.

[StewieG]

I play Call of Duty 2 for a clan that i wont name. We have sponsorship and are currently top of 2 leagues.... my friends at college bought cs:s and asked me if i wanted to start a clan up, so we did........


The problem i was having was that in COD2, bullets only hit middle or crosshair, unlike cs:s ( i wont say why thats explained in the guide ).

I just couldnt kill people, yet i often top any pub i join in cod2 by a mile......this really annoyed me , so i wanted answers....

I searched the net and came across this guide.....now normally i would have ignored it as a noob guide just about the names of guns, kinda like a review more than anything useful, but then i read further and noticed CAL.

Now playing cod2 i know all about CAL so i thought "hmmmmmz this is either gonna be cack, or the best 30quid i ever spend on the net"

And im glad to say the latter was the outcome.......


This guide is priceless tbh, the css guide pages give you the basics and a little extra to make you think, with the videos helping to show you exactly what is being described....absolutley brilliant for beginners to FPS gaming and even to those like me , that play other fps games well, but need that shove in the right direction...

And finally we come to the Supplemental Videos....Now imo these are the real gems......

These explain the guides content and more in a lot more detail for those people that haven't quite grasped the contents of the guide........

I personally found these videos to be my favorite and most useful part of the guide.

As an added bonus, these guides WILL also improve your other FPS games skills, as you will start to think more about the way you play fps.

As for support, if you are having problems, you get very quick responces either on these forums or direct to your email, any changes /update are available in a click of the mouse, and if you need any help, there is always someone around to help you understand and get over your obsticles.

Verdit....A MUST BUY FOR ANYONE THAT PLAYS ANY FPS, including CS 1.6 & Source

[Antimatter]

I finally got my parents to let me use there credit card and within the first chapter of the guide and 2 hours!!!! of play my kdr is up from .5 to 1.5-2 this thing is down right AMASING!!!!

If you dont buy it prepared to get PWND

[BeanerBurrito]

seriously this is one great guide, in one day of practice after reading the guide i'm owning WAY more than ever before, great job guys and all haters deserve to die

[MasterCG]

This is an awesome guide. im still new to this game but im usually owning everyone n deathmatches and i seem to be able to position my gun for head shots without looking at the Xhair. This is partly down to expierience but its mostly down to the guide explaining the way the game works and how to maximise your potential. I have never bought a guide before and i doubt ill buy another but im glad i got this.

[Snake]

I wanna have sex with the pwnage guide.

[Wilhelm]

wow, snake.....i never realized you felt that way....LOL

[Mackaybre]

Bibliophiles of the World UNITE!

[dobbythepwner]

snake, can ny nickname be "the pwnage guide"?
haha j/k i bought it back in feb, and what ive learned has just stuck, you just have a second nature interpretation of where every bullet will land, Headshots galore for me :)

[Mackaybre]

snake, can ny nickname be "the pwnage guide"?


Wow, Not the way I would choose to profess my desire for snake.

[Shaok353]

i just want to add my testament to the guide...
It points out stuff to you that make you go, dang why didnt I think of that, but it does it in such a way that makes you LEARN it and remember it. Im still struggling with the awp, but im 10x better at it than before...and in scrims, Ive gone from being at the bottom of the board, straight to the very top. This stuff works and is worth the money!

[dobbythepwner]

well in the society we live in whether its the uk or us mackaybre things are rather weird imo =\
and whats wrong with snake!
haha anyways anyone who wants to know why things dont go right for them ingame the guide literally covers everything, very much worth it.

[animosity]

I think this guide is good, but there should be more info on hardware/gameplay optimization.... make more emphasis on monitor refresh rate... because that does have a big impact on my performance playing 1.6 and source equally.

LCDs will have smoother visual performance with 75-80Hz when playing games...(idk about CRTs). mine only supports 59,60hz and it definitly does not look pretty while playing games w/ the 60hz. After forcing it up to 75hz it's definitly a noticable improvement.
i only saw monitors refresh rates mentioned once? somewhere close to the bottom. saying something about getting a 200Hz monitor:confused: . haha

plz include more on this in the hardware optimization section, I think it could help some people out.:-D

[payne]

Video 4 was all about setting up your hardware, pc, and mouse correctly. Also there are posts in the forums and if they don't answer your specific questions, just ask.;)

[Haftaway]

This guide is simply amazing I was a little skeptical about buying it at first due to the fear of it not being anything special, but I had some extra money so I bought it. Before the guide I was a terrible player in the server I play on I was always in bottom 5 out of about 25 people on each team. I wasn't sure what was wrong, so I almost quit CS:S for good. Then I found the guide and now I am always at the top. I have been speced for hacking on many occasions which makes me feel good :). This guide has brought my K : D ratio from about a .33 to a 3.5 to 6.0 ratio. This guide is highly recommended.

[Beans]

Is this Guide only for CS:Source? :confused:

[Wilhelm]

I play both...the techniques that the guide teaches apply to both games. Spray control is a little different between 1.6 and source, but that was really all that I noticed, in my n00b opinion. :D

[Beans]

I was thinking of purchasing this, but honestly I don't play source at all.

[Wilhelm]

Im still working on it, not where I want to be yet in terms of skill and gameplay...but one thing that I have found is that to be good, a good consistent technique that delivers predicatable results is essential.

The guide lays out the techniques to base your gameplay and skills off of, and gives you the framework to improve upon.

I combined what the guide lays out in the videos, and took further lessons from Snake (who by the way is an excellent teacher).

I can honestly say that without the guide, i wouldnt have had the framework to understand what Snake was showing me, nor would I have understood what I see in the game and what that tells me about the techniques Im using. Im a visual/tactile learner for the most part, and the videos within the guide were very important for understanding (awesome job, RewSky and Pig/Payne), in the initial setup and for further polishing and practice (thanks, Snake!).

The upshot, Beans, is this.....the guide has a ton of value for 1.6 and for Source, if what you are looking for are proven techniques that deliver results. Previous to the guide, my K/D was .75....now its 1.8 over an average daily playtime of 2 hours for 2 months, and as I practice and perfect, it will only go higher.

Maybe one day, when I grow up, I can join WoP......who knows?

just my 2 cents worth.

[Niiro13]

It's an excellent guide. Already I have improved to where I can get pretty much a consistent kd ratio of 2. I was unsure a first, because I thought that FPS were all about coordination. I was wrong. The last thing that pushed me was the advertisement on youtube, showing amazing frags.

For me, the videos helped a lot. I'm always eager for more videos.

I hope to see more info in the written section in the future! =) (just in case I'm left without internet for a while...I can still learn the stuff from the videos! =))

The written portion covers the basics and beginning pwnage, but the videos cover the real details on how to pwn. especially rew sky's.

The guide can actually be applied to 1.6. There's no set thing like "you have to move your hand one centimeter". The only real difference between S and 1.6 is the recoil.

[Ray]

Just bought the guide last night and i have to say its really good. Ive been playing cs since 1.3 and started source like 8 months ago. This guide is really good. Should me a few things that i should do. I think its perfect for the rookie. I wish this guide was out 6 years ago. I would had been pro by now :p Worth the money Go for it

[kimlo]

sorry to sound rude but haftaway you are so full of shi*@*#%. Yeah right your kd went from .33 to 3.5 to 6.0 thats a load of garbage. To have a kd of .33 in the first place you would have no aim at all. After this guide your kd is 3.5 to 6.0.Whether you have seen guide or not for you to get such a score you must have good aim. This guide does not give aim if you have the aim to get 3.5 to 6.0 then theres no way you would have been on .33 kd before the guide. Please if you want to give an opinion about the guide at least say the truth not make up a load of garbage. This guide is not a miracle its just improves your game by a fair bit i must admit BUT not from .33 to 6.0 i think thats a load of rubbish.

[Ridd3r]

lol I always find comments like that funny as well, maybe its just me but the way people imply it is as if after a few weeks (or hours lol) they went from zero to hero. I got the guide like a year and a half ago and Iv been playing about 2 and its only in the last few months that Iv really improved a lot. People say yeah I read the guide and went to play and got like 12 1! Ok so maybe they did but could they consistently get that score? No I dont think so. Maybe it was like a placebo effect and they got some confidence but they sure as hell didnt magically develop all the techniques and most importantly their own in a matter of about an hour of reading with no practise.

Its important to not judge skill over a matter of days, its more like months. I get 3kdr in pubs now and have done for the past few months because experience and aim practise has paid off. I must note that its not just from the wop guide either Iv found some frag videos (return of the ajnin!) have REALLY helped my aim because that style really suited me and I have adapted it to my own. I remember I played really well about a year ago getting 3kdr in pubs for about a month then I had a few weeks off and went into a monster slump for a long time however if I now specced myself playing even when I was playing well then I would probably laugh at how much worse I was. I rekon you have to hit a slump to improve, once your past it and I mean really past it then you will just keep improving and you will not play well and not know how you did it you will be in control.

EDIT* What is the point in anyone saying they can get 6kdr really?? Everyone has had a good game and got maybe 22 1 or whatever but no one gets that all the time unless they are playing COMPLETE baddies and it doesnt mean you can do it all the time at all like saying you get such and such a kdr does. Anyone can get a good score with bad teams as well you need to be able to carry a team in public.

[Halomaniak]

Actually I know a guy who gets a consistent 4 lol and we all on average have a 2 when he isnt their

His best ive seen is a 100-9

[Ridd3r]

I bet if the server records stats his kdr isnt 4, the fact is if he is getting that then (assuming its not an aim map or awp map) he isnt being challenged at all and hes playing with a bunch of really bad players. Even public has wide ranges of skill. Also how can you all get 2? If one person has 2 another has 0.5 to compensate. Anyway its missing the point really I had a kdr of 4.5 for 150 kills when I wasnt even very good at all, all it shows is that I was playing people that were much worse than me. If you play in a server without bots and a decent number of people in it then you should face a decent range of skill and also at times you will be in a losing team and then you can carry them :D. The point is kdr isnt the be all and end all but people throw it around too much and think they have improved massively because they got a good score 1 time but thats not true at all. If you are focusing on a really good kdr on public you will bait your team mates, rejoin if you get a bad score , not play on a losing team, not rush etc. If you are a genuinely good player then you can turn bad scores around, rush, carry, clutch, pick etc. Everyone will do bad now and then but good players can change it around and play consistent all the time. o0 rant :P

[Halomaniak]

Lol just wanted to show one of his scores not his usual but still really good for being on the losing side


http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8432/jklr1.th.png (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jklr1.png)

[Ridd3r]

Thats nothing amazing its only just over 3kdr and your saying he does not even get that all the time. Those teams arent that bad theres basically the 2 ppl on top then the rest are very average. Y did u block out ur score lol :P

[Halomaniak]

Wasnt me just some guys screenie I found of my server

[Ridd3r]

Oh OK I thought u had whipped it up just then on paint :P

[Oggi Boggi]

This guide really works. Today i was playin in a match as ct in de_dust2. T's rushed b and my partner got taken out straight off. I ended up taken all 5 of them down and they all knew where I was. I would recomend getting this guide. Thumbs up WOP!

And I have only been playing css for 3 months. 1 of those with the help of WOP.

[Rifle n00b]

Soo many good things being said about it...

Just wondering, will it matter if you have a really crappy computer? I'm dealing with really old hardware and can't upgrade it yet

KDR of about 0.65-0.90 at the moment

[Nisa]

Soo many good things being said about it...

Just wondering, will it matter if you have a really crappy computer? I'm dealing with really old hardware and can't upgrade it yet

KDR of about 0.65-0.90 at the moment

after i read all imressions i just bought it (still waiting for passwords)
Can't wait to read it and watch it! I hope it will help me.cheers

[Marcusjr]

I've been playing cs:s for about maybe 1yr or so. i wont lie some{I SAID SOME NOT ALL!!!!} of the tech. they show are pretty basic and simple, but i think what separates this guide from some regular guide is the in-depth E-book and rew sky's video lessons. You know if you need help or not in CS:S. I wont lie I did play 1.6 and alot of tech's i had the grasp of just didn't know how to master them properly. after purchasing this guide, me as a customer can assure you that 3 things will be different.{4 if your me}
1. you will understand more about the game & guns.
2. you will be able to identify the area's you need to practice on.
3. you will have a better understanding of how to practice rather than just going to a pub and shooting everything you see.
4. and if you me which sucks... I'm African American so after i kill 3 people the N word pops out rather more quickly then it use 2. owe it 2 you WOP.
WOP for the Win!!!

[Kuramaz]

Marcus thats exactly what i get XD i own somebody spray a pic of myself and the N word fest goes on. I love it though keeps me motivated that im getting to these guys and the word isnt even offensive to me lol